Dude, you may laugh about our futile attempts to have a Jewish state in this hole, but nothing is funnier than the Iranian “democracy”.
We do have a demographic problem, even if the Palestinians will have a state that will be a good neighbor, which i doubt because they want our land. We have a big Arab population in Israel that has full rights, including voting. And they do not feel as they belong here, they want Israel to go away so they can live in Palestine.
The solution of 2 states for 2 peoples doesn’t attract them, they want either one Arab state, or two states, one purely Arab, and the other multinational. It’s not just about territory, listen to what Hammas is saying, they want to destroy Israel to the ground. But I assure you that if they do, or if you do, we can guarantee mutual destruction, if you know what I mean. Better leave us alone and mind your own business, it’s a shame that a great country like Iran, with all its oil and gas, has to threaten small countries just to get some attention and some spare dollars from Russia or US.
The above was a comment by a reader on my previous post. First, let me thank you for leaving the post. There are a few interesting points here:
1. Let’s just not laugh at each other. Iran is not and cannot be a democracy with the status quo and I have eluded to that previously. But it certainly has what it takes to get one, and is closer to getting it than almost any of its neighbors. We did have a democracy in 1953, but the CIA and the MI5 made sure it wouldn’t last more than a year…
2. My understanding is that the Arab citizens in Israel are not treated equally with the Jews at all. I believe that if Israel really wants to get these people to accept the legitimacy of a Jewish state, it has to CONVINCE them, not force them into accepting it. You can’t convince Arabs of Israel’s legitimacy by force, but by pleasing them, treating them equally, letting them hold high-ranking political offices. I assure you that the day Israel does that even the need for a two-state solution may disappear. You CAN get Arabs to live under a truly democratic Israel which treats its citizens equally.
3. You said we should mind our own business. I couldn’t agree more! I have said a zillion times in this blog that I think Ahmadinejad is a moron. We have lots of issues ourselves to take care of. Arab-Israeli issues are Arabs’ Israelis’ business. And mind you, this is not America’s or the EU’s business either.
Even though I disagree with much of what the IRI says about Israel. I do agree that there’s a fundamental issue that is always being ignored. The issue being the fact that Palestinians are paying the price for somebody else’s crimes. I understand the kind of scar that WWII left on the Jewish community, but let’s not forget who committed the crimes. Were it the Arab Muslims or European Christians? You want to prove that Jews are not the victims of history? Go after the folks that victimized you, not the ones that had nothing to do with it. You’ve been fighting the wrong enemy since day one, and your scars will not heal until you claim your rights where they were taken away from you.
The Jews have produced the greatest geniuses of man’s history, I wonder why they can’t solve their own simple equation.
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A Persian's Perspective 
The most fundemental mistake that most arabs and persians make is in the belief that Israel was created out of the holocaust – or that palestine is paying for someone elses crimes
Jews are indiginous to the area – they wrote the bible and begun christianity here
Ancient Israel / Judea was destroyed by rome – and “palestine” was created in 150ad – by order of Hadrian
Jews have been trying for 2000 years to come home – and we have arrived home – finally
The goal is to to create our own free, happy, home again
I know its hard to believe – but the land rightfully belongs to Israel
she is home now – try leaving her alone
That’s quite a bizarre argument, Andrew. If things worked that way, Persians could claim the entire Middle East and Asia Minor becuase that was our land about 2000 years ago.
The Jews left Israel a long long time ago, and made no serious attempt to go back until they realized they couldn’t be safe and secure unless they got united again, but the land didn’t belong to them anymore. They had to get rid of the people who were living in that land for 2000 years now.
Arab citizens in Israel are not second class citizens and they are treated equaly, unlike Palestinians in the neighbouring countries such as Jordan who do treat them as second class citizens. This is also apparent in the numbers of Arab refugees that have immigrated to Israel in order to enjoy the freedom there since it’s independence, and the number of Arab political parties in Israel and the fact that Arabic is the second official language of Israel.
The day ignorant Muslims recognise that Israel is not going to disappear, is the first day of the peace process in the Middle East.
Mr. cityboyblbg, please refrain from speaking on behalf of Arab citizens who reside in Israel; somehow you don’t strike me as a valid representative of Israel’s Arab residents.
Mr. Andrew, please understand that history is history. Charles de Gaulle said something very succinct and poignant the which I will quote to reply to your perspective of history:
“History may vindicate life; it does not resemble it.”
The location of home for any people is quite an arbitrary matter; and you lot certainly have been creative in the arbitration of yours. If one can find pleasure in the vapid political nonsense that puts one man in another’s homestead on account of some undue covenant with God, with whom none has any current verifiable communication, then have your share while you can. Eat your heart out!
Take what you can when you can. My fellow man, the situation in Palestine-Israel is crystal clear without your self-righteous soliloquy, as it were.
My Iranian friends,
I note the good responses to the sophistry of the jewish liars on this thread, but I also note some errors in attempting to debate them. It can be quite a task trying to debate the Masters of the Lie, so I’d like to quote what one man found out and hope it helps you in the future. God bless Iran and it’s people, forever!
I quote:
“The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.”
Please know that there are many, many people around the world that support you in your current struggle against the world’s misfortune and we hope you will succeed.
this is the most racist website I have ever been on. Why don’t you guys stop arguing about who’s home it is and actually try living together? I mean look at America! You don’t see the mexicans blowing up california because the white people took it from them do you? Do everybody in the world a favor and figure it out already..For people who are supposed to be so smart you act pretty dumb. 2000 years and still arguing about the same shit. pathetic
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